TheBear I am torn between Oh my eyes. In my opinion the mossberg 590 is superior to all of them owners of the 590 had described it as indestructible. I would contact Remington Arms or one of their warranty dealers in your area. Even nicer than most Wingmaster. Also new was a Remington Model My two Wingmasters can be converted to hunting guns with the swap of a barrel, the removal of the magazine extensions, and the addition of a plug. added the 12 gauge Model 870 SP Special Purpose Deer Gun It comes with numerous attachment mechanisms making it easy to toss onto a shotgun like the 870. If you love to wear hoodies? It had a telescoping stock, pistol grip and ghost ring sights. I too am a Rem 870 fan, but also wanted the Win 97 but the prices in the last ten years have skyrocketed because they are one of the few period-authentic pumps to be allowed for Cowboy Action shooting, so all you see on offer now are those truly worn or shot out, for stil too much money, or those in excellent shape for which you pay museum prices. Express Small Gauge shotgun in 28 gauge, and a 20 gauge (for $79.95), Model 870SB Skeet Special Grade (for Theres a reason why military and police prefer the Mossberg 590A1 over the outdated 870 regarding reliability. Buckshot rounds and slugs extracted without problems, but cheap Winchester field loads appeared to be made of softer plastic and/or thinner metal at the case heads and stuck very tightly in the chamber until it smoothed up. Full Details More from this Seller. If no such guide exists, I would appreciate any advice people could give, regarding how to tell if an 870 is worn, worn OUT, or still has a good amount of life left in it. Watched the second round nail the rabbit, and out of my peripheral vision saw flame come out of mid barrel. 870 Special Purpose Marine. This article settles it for me. I want to buy my first shotgun for home defense. This seemed to work fine for a while till I ran the gun through the CLEET shotgun school. also re-introduced the Model 870 TC Trap gun with I couldnt figure out why it would click when you cocked the action, yet it wouldnt shoot most of the time. I have an early 70s model 870 Wingmaster that is the cats meow but for ducks, geese, clay pigeons and anything else I now turn to my Benelli Nova. Thanks guys for the fun info! Plus as oft stated, your mileage may very, but Ive had friends that bought the Nova, found performance problems and cut corners with them, and ended up buying either an 870, or mossberg in disgust. Rifle Sighted Deer Gun, the Model 870 Express Small Itll work with everything Ive ever put in it, and like the man says, thats what counts. Our 870 and a Mossberg 500 purchased at the same time, with the same round count on it, are currently lightly salted and sitting in a field somewhere in Texas. You wont find the grit and slop that shows up in other pump actions. Are you sure it was a Remington you reviewed? $464.00 $449.99. Remington Im a shotgun nerd, and Ive experienced a variety of different actions actions from Benelli, Mossberg, Winchester, and more. Short stroking shotgun actions happen, but the smoother the action, the less likely you will short stroke the gun. both with 21-inch RemChoke barrels. I choose that over the 870 because I like the ergonomics better mostly, but I have been trap shooting with a friend who has 2 20 gauge 870s and a new 12 gauge 870. Pretty crappy QC if you ask me. Those aftermarket lefty safeties are dangerous. on 30 barrels, deer guns, target guns or as a retrofit. I called Mossberg and hey told me to send them the gun. Upgrade the Remington 1100/11-87. It has been dropped into a swamp 4 of water and then into the mud. Ill have some popcorn. If I was going for a cheap clays gun Id go 870 but most other tasks 500. $93.57. Type your email address and well send But you dont get a quality shotgun for a $350 870 Express, you get a plastic and rust-prone gizmo with rough parts that is like a monstrosity twin brother of the Wingmaster. introduced cantilever scope mounted barrel on the Model 870 The best practice is to always have a back up plan. I put Williams firesignts on for slugs and deer (and have also used sabots with Carlsons rifled choke tubes). If I ever decide to go hunting I can just swap barrels and pull the extension off and add a plug. Ergonomics: * ** * Reach in the tube and push forward on the next round. That BPS that some guy raves on is fine but I just dont like guns made by SumYungHo of Japan. differs from the standard Model 870 line only in exterior Easy enough to fix with some paint but it should come that way. Remington also introduced two new Model satin finish on exposed metal parts, and a subdued oil finished jallenb1962 (959) 100%. and what appears to be a fine 1911. if only they would bring back the x- 5. The Wingmaster represents the companys premier shotgun, and as the name implies, most Wingmasters are sporting guns. Here are just a few of my favorites: The Magpul SGA is the best shotgun stock on the planet. 7+ lbs is not a particularly light shotgun, by the way. Turkey Camo gun had a synthetic stock with Advantage Camo Threw a shell holder/Picatinny railed top on it. 21-inches. Got locked-up problem with the very first shot and the second, and the third, and 10 stuck-ups out of 17 shots. I got my first deer using an 870 with 00 buckshot in the mixed brush, juniper breaks of Central TX. Every time we shoot I kick myself for not having bought a second 870 instead, there is that much of a difference. I got a chuckle out of this. Lightweight $104.94 $103.99 Coupon Available. Question of the Day: How Can the NRA Become Less White? 870 28 gauge and .410 shotguns were offered individually, in place Remington 1100 20 Gauge Satin Forend / Forearm ! The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Model 870 SPS-T RS/TG Shotgun with fully adjustable Remington also I had this problem with my Remington 870 express tactical, so i called Remington customer support, and told them the problem i was having, and about the MIM extractor, they gladly sent me a forged steel extractor, free of charge, no questions asked! future issue? 870 RS/TG Shotgun with 20-inch RemChoke barrel and Truglow Not to knock the 870 at all, but it is certainly not the most iconic scattergun, as the writer claims. Remington 870 Express Laminated stock 12ga, 3", 26" vent rib, Scope! Retay Masai Mara Turkey XT in 20-Gauge. Besides my shotgun, I also have a model 700, 22-250 set up for competition shooting (age unknown, I bought it used in 96), and a model 700, 7mm that I bought new in 97. Some gun store in Canada have stopped carrying Remington due to poor quality control. I believe Remington Arms (or, as they like to call themselves, "RemArms") is headquartered in La Grange, Georgia. The slide release is also much better on the Maverick, operated with the second finger, without groping somewhere forward like on the 870. you a link to reset your password. I have two, one recently made (~2 years ago) and one made in the early Eighties. Specifications: Remington 870 Shotgun Chamber: 12 gauge Barrel: 18 Capacity: 4+1 Price: $350 Ratings (Out of Five Stars): All ratings are relative compared to the other weapons in the gun's category. walnut, in mid-year 1974, Remington began fitting some M870 Field Parts listed here are specific to the Remington Model 870 shotgun chambered in 12/16/20/28 gauge or .410 bore unless noted otherwise. Mesa makes high-quality stuff, and they are well known as shotgun people. Id say 3 out of thousands is about as good as youll ever get, People like to raise a little sand over Mossbergs appearance, and attach too much significance to its low price. I would still love an old Wingmaster. The Mesa Tactical SureShell side saddle is a very well-made design that allows you to keep four spare rounds tied to the gun. Fine-line receiver engraving was added I heard Mossbergs come with a box of tampons for every new purchase so why dont you use them. But until that testing is complete, I can say without a doubt that under normal conditions the gun runs just fine. operation. I picked up an 870 Tactical model about 2 years ago and it is one of my favorite weapons. New Old Stock! My 500 flex did not experience any of these problems and was pristine. Stoeger Longfowler 20 Gauge Over/Under Shotgun with A-Grade Satin Walnut Stock. People knock mossbergs for their rattle, which some confuse the loose fit to cheap-move up a notch in cost, like the 590, and it disappears. I got the military model with the useless but interesting bayonet mount, because I wanted a shotgun you could safely leave with the chamber loaded but without a cocked hammer, none of which you can do with a hammerless gun (if you have a hammerless with a loaded mag but with no round chambered, it rattles and the slide is not locked down; I admit it could well be an alternate way to proceed.) Felt nice in my hands. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. Or is it coded, perhaps in the serial number? wow. after researching the problems with express 870 ejection problems, many are saying it is due to the MIM (metal injected molded) extractors. One of the key points was that the 870 uses a two rail system for the pump which keeps it from twisting and binding while racking. I tend to prefer the tactical models and all but my .410 Express model represents various tactical 870s. We'll send you the latest guides and training tips geared Both kick like a mule but inexplicably the 500 is significantly lighter in all polymer furniture than the 870 (almost 2 lbs!). You do not pay Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. Star of stage and screen and gracing the gun safe of just about every gun owner in the United States, its a familiar sight on the range and in the field. Besides But I dont really like all of the changes that happened over the years: dimples in magazine tube, plastic follower, synthetic trigger guard. Benelli every time. In California, an AOW or a C&R SBS/SBR are the only NFA items we are allowed unless we sell to law enforcement/military or are an armorer to movie studios. Its the first thing Id change on my Remington guns. TTAG, could you do a review on the other guns that got lifted from my safe? contracted with the U.S. Marine Corps to fabricate 3,231 Model The finish is garbage and the machining spotty. Remingtons 870 has long been their flagship firearm, and today we are taking more than one for a run. Gotta say I love Travis's very old school bayonet lug. barrels. Pre-Owned. replacement for the rugged but outdated Model 31 pump-action shotgun. 5.0 $39.97 ATI T3 TactLite 12ga Shotgun Stock Polymer Black 5.0 $136.72 ATI Shotforce Universal Top-Folding Shotgun Stock, Polymer, Matte Black 4.0 $92.56 I was thinking the Mossberg 590 is a lot heavier than the 870, but a quick Goggle search shows theyre only separated by a few ounces? Just Click on the the image or description below and enjoy! Oh, okay, so the Remington 870 is pretty good? RemChoke If I want to shoot a fast, cheap shotgun, the Mossberg 930 is the way to go. Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>, Sarah Connor chose the 870 to fight Terminators, Available in virtually any configuration you could want, Caliber: 12 Gauge (.410 and 20 gauge also available), Barrel Length: 20 (14 through 28 also available), Capacity: 7 Rounds (4 to 6 also available). The 870 Delivers a Superior Pattern The 870 (left pattern) delivered over 100 more pellets with Hevi-18 inside the 10-inch circle than the SBE3 (middle pattern) at 40 yards. However, the 870 Wingmaster will always hold a space in my heart. Its so enjoyable that it feels like it should be fattening. Youve been through 32 annual seasons in 29 years?!?! Meh guns and calibers are like Pokemon to me. Ive been readn these posts again. Seems the attention-to-detail aspect has lacked and units are being shipped with small imperfections in the chamber that causes the shell to cant sideways and jam on extraction. the new green pistol doesnt shoot but you can put crimson trace up front. Mea culpa a slip of the fingers. Joe Genzel Scopes and reflex sights have become popular amongst turkey hunters. There are lighter ones, too. Gunsmiths may also have some or can point you to a good shop. black finish on all exposed metal parts and black synthetic stock and Dave. Ironically I can get a bunch of stuff you guys would kill for, while I cant get any American suppressors. But the good thing is that you can always replace those parts. The 870 has a long history of reliability. It is what it is, and for a truck or tractor or barn gun and just beating around and actually hunting, well like the man said It goes bang, so nuff said. I did replace the buttstock pad with a softer version, but otherwise its stock out of the box. The latest incarnation of the 870 uses the same style stock as the newer Remington 700 rifles. Before I had any of these I had a Nobel 20 gauge, I believe it was a copy of the 870 made Italy. )- interestingly enough, women and experienced,shotgunners will pick up a mossberg for inventory cause of the lighter weight. That shouldnt be an issue. It is the last year of production, and many of them were parts clean up guns. Ive always considered the action of the 870 to be more substantial than that of the 500. developed what would later be called the Model 870 shotgun. The Remington 870 isnt the cheapest pump-action shotgun or even the cheapest American-made pump-action shotgun, but it still represents a good value. Having used 870 in my LE career, I wouldnt stand by any other duty shotgun unless it were the higher end Bennelli super 90, but for day to day use and abuse public safety employees subject them to, remingtons last, Gotta love the grand gun debates. straight-comb or Monte Carlo stock. 4. Remington My wingmaster from the mid 70s is much stiffer than my freedom group express. But for $350, you still get some nice features. (from Wiki) microcrystalline wax polish that is widely encountered in antique restoration and museum curation. So a BPS is not great for clay bird competitions or for a combat reload. Also you shouldnt disassemble a BPS unless you are mechanically inclined see youtube videos on this. of the previously marketed Matched Pairs. My 28 barrel is my all around shotty, and i want to keep it that way. Now that Remington is back up and running, the 870 will likely rise to the top. If you are looking for a 20 gauge (which I prefer for many reasons Google the subject) , the oldest 870 20 gauge models were built on the heavier 12 gauge frame and accept the 12 gauge stock. parts and synthetic stock and forend. cyl. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Remington 870 Compact Synthetic Stock and Forend Mossy Oak Pink 20 Gauge 19529 at the best online prices at eBay! At the risk of flaunting my ignorance, does anybody know what the 870 means? I bought an 870 and love it, About 3 decades ago, I spent 6 years in the Coast Guard reserves, serving as a small-boat engineer and boarding officer. 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