Values are approximate and determined by community testing. demomen got demoknighted, which ment soldier got the upper end of the deal. It's quite possible to use this, either on its own or in conjunction with a Stickybomb jump, to reach otherwise inaccessible locations. The knockback of the cannonballs can also be a detrement for achieving Double-Donks. As grenades tend to roll around after being shot, it is usually best to fire a grenade towards a wall to make its final sitting position more predictable. Spies can be used as a pseudo-tripwire for an allied Demoman. Stickybombs are a very useful weapon, as their short detonation time, combined with their damage and splash range, can destroy enemy pushes and break stalemates. You will lack a reliable melee weapon however, due to the Eyelanders slower deploy and holster time. The first is jumping and looking at the ground/wall as the cannonball explodes while it is still in the chamber (similar to an. If you miss your sticky and you know it will deal no damage, keep it there as it may be useful later on the fight. Additionally, your allied Pyro can simply reflect back any projectiles that were previously airblasted by an enemy Pyro. The high charge damage can also deprive you of claiming your enemy's head when the head counter is low. It is beneficial to keep a loaded Grenade Launcher as a backup weapon instead of the other way around, as Stickybombs have an arm time that can be the difference between life and death. Menu. Would it be a nice little addition to the arsenal? The Propaganda contest was there to ensure Soldier won, and it is the reason Soldier won. The Scottish Resistance's fast rate of fire can be used in direct combat, but not in the same way as the normal Stickybomb Launcher. A Demoman can use the knockback of his explosives to split apart or disrupt pushes and isolate enemies to allow for easy pickings. The Market Gardener is a community-created melee weapon for the Soldier. The ability to destroy stickybombs can be useful for protecting friendly. The different shields allow you to select between resistances (Chargin' Targe), damage (Splendid Screen), and maneuverability (Tide Turner); however, none of the shields give bullet resistance, so Scouts, Heavies, and Sentry Guns are still a danger for you. Lastly, the Scotsman's Skullcutter can provide great high-damage surprise attacks in a similar vein to the Soldier's Market Gardener after a blast jump. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Quickiebomb Launcher, although not as useful for setting traps, is better at close range thanks to its very short arm time. +10% faster move speed on wearer. This is the A Thousand and One Demoknights set if combined with the Sultan's Ceremonial hat. pls like and sub so I don't have to go to college and get a job :)#TF2 #TeamFortress2 This can give you more resiliency compared to other classes and partially nullifies the self-damage normally incurred when firing directly in front of you. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Using this, you can peek around corners to launch stickybombs more liberally, and likely survive more punishment. Grenade are shot forward in a gravity-obeying arc. The Claidheamh Mr grants 25% of your charge meter back on kill, which, combined with the Tide Turner's 75% charge on kill, means you can immediately charge again upon getting a kill. It deals critical hits when flying off of someone's explosive damage even if it is a enemy rocket/stickybomb/grenade. Using the Eyelander, your main weakness is your low initial health, but after taking a few heads, you become nigh-unstoppable. A Demoman can lay down sticky traps to block off routes enemies might take to evade a Sentry Gun. This allows you to hit distant targets more easily without having to compensate by aiming and predicting, especially against stationary targets like, Its increased shot velocity means that the Loch-n-Load is also excellent for tunnel fighting, such as in the tunnels of. The extra shield turning control and charge restoration don't match that of the Tide Turner, but they do allow the other two shields to become pseudo-Tide Turners. With the Claidheamh Mr, however, you gain the benefit of increased melee range and charge duration, with its damage vulnerability downside being irrelevant when you aren't using it. Consequently, you will never regain ammo unless if your charge meter is full. Keep a safe distance from the fight to avoid blowing yourself up by mistake. It is far more effective for creating and managing stickybomb traps than the normal Stickybomb Launcher. This also allows you to guard multiple areas at once. Jumper slows your descent by pressing the Jump key in midair. You can even roll grenades down slopes, albeit with little control. It would actually decrease spam because he wouldn't have a pipe launcher. Sticky jumping is very similar to rocket jumping. You must be quick to react and time your attacks well, as the "red zone" will only be active during the last 25% of the charge. When the charge meter is red, the melee weapon that is currently equipped will perform a guaranteed. Depending on the map and slope, charge jumps with the Tide Turner may cover more ground than other jumps would, whilst retaining all health besides fall damage. Don't be silly, Valve took out the concept of useful set bonuses a long time ago! I do it a lot for the meme to be a heavy terrorizer, no he doesn't and this idiotic meme of an idea needs to die. If you manage to lob in a couple full-charge bombs, enemies will be blown to smithereens without much of an issue. As these Double Donks usually require good timing and aim to pull off, practice is necessary to get them consistently. The Knockback can also be used very aggressively, pushing enemies away from areas that you deem off-limits. While its smaller blast radius can be problematic against groups, the Loch-n-Load's extra projectile speed is very redeeming in the hands of a player who focuses on direct hits. This is especially true if the Demoman is using the. It also allows you to detonate traps from safety. For the Demoman who focuses on pure, relentless offense, dealing extraordinary damage from close-to-medium range. The Grenade Launcher has a four-grenade clip and a quick fire rate. The slower falling speed can be used during a sticky jump, allowing you to negate fall damage, plant traps in locations opponents may not suspect, and rain down stickybombs from an unexpected, hard-to-reach vantage point. In open Arena maps, the Sticky Jumper allows you to propel yourself and land behind the enemy team at the beginning of a round, when all players are packed together. It is an entrenching shovel with a tan wooden handle fastened with green metal. Like the Soldier, your explosives deal excellent splash damage, allowing you to deal heavy damage to groups. I'm interested in Scout, Soldier, Demoman and Sniper, but generally I want to only focus on one of them. These loadouts are often referred to as "Demoknight" and "Demoknight Hybrid", respectively. The Demoman is effective at longer ranges than the Pyro and can take out Sentry Guns more effectively, while the Pyro is able to take care of close-range threats that might otherwise shred the Demoman. The Iron Bomber's jumps are of less value if you have a. Like the Soldier, the Demoman is also capable of performing explosive jumps, and can reach objectives well in advance of other classes once the jumps have been mastered. The Iron Bomber's smaller explosion radius is a minor hindrance, and its shorter fuse and slow-moving rollers restrict its range. Demo already takes too much damage when sticky jumping. This weapon gets no random critical hits. True dat. Do not underestimate the power of air-detonated stickies. 28 days ago. By charging a cannonball for a full second, the detonation allows for a strong, easily-timed explosive jump. The higher reserve ammunition count and faster fire rate allow you to set up many traps in a short amount of time and over a long period of time. The Claidheamh Mr increases charge duration of all shields to 2 seconds and refills 25% of your charge meter on melee kills. The extra health from the booties allows the Demo to survive longer and sticky jump more. The turning ability also allows the player to strafe around obstructions mid-jump without requiring to end the charge first, allowing for less restrictive and easier jumps. Because of this, the two's combined firepower and large range of mobility options can make for an ideal pair-up. Switching from the stock Grenade Launcher to the Loch-n-Load will help you to quickly dispatch a sentry nest without having your grenades or stickybombs destroyed or airblasted at long range. Cheats. 12 seconds (refill 75% charge on melee kills). The ability to detonate Stickybombs in separate clusters allows you to set up "decoy" Stickybomb clusters. Search for areas of the map that would make ideal Stickybomb traps for unsuspecting enemy players; if they are in plain sight, enemies may destroy the bombs before you can detonate them. Gunboats and Market Gardener on Demoman Looking back over TF2 history, the Demoman had a chance of getting the Gunboats in the WAR update. Since the Sticky Jumper replaces your Stickybomb Launchers and Shields, you should bring with you a grenade launcher and a melee weapon that doesn't rely too much on using a shield to be effective. +25 maximum health on wearer. The reason is not because you are not helping the team, the reason is because enemies usually avoid traps, rather than walk over them. High angle fire at long distances can help to hit enemies behind cover and flush Engineer nests out without getting you in harm's way. The Scottish Resistance has a few downsides. Try to aim near an enemy's feet; your grenades deal excellent. A Demoknight simply lacks the firepower needed to take down nests by himself, and you can always re-equip your shield after clearing a nest. You have access to Demoman-specific explosive, As the class' name implies, the Demoman is a go-to demolition expert when it comes to, However, this does not mean you do not require team support. Valve Corporation. Right, but it would completely sacrifice his pipe launcher. Thanks to the 0.2 seconds faster bomb arm time, which makes the bombs arm in about half a second, this weapon is very good at not only quick in-combat detonations, but also, The 70% faster charging, which makes it so the charge fills in only about a second (compared to "the regular" 4 seconds), and the damage increase based on charge make the Quickiebomb Launcher excellent at "sticky sniping.". With practice, Stickybomb jumps can be extended with "pogo-jumping" detonating a second Stickybomb in the air to increase your air time. Pesky enemies who weave in-and-out of melee range can be baited into a hastily-set Stickybomb cluster; after all, you can still detonate your traps while holding out your melee weapon. The Persian Persuader allows the Demoman to use ammo packs as a source to refill shield charge and gains 20% charge with every hit landed with the weapon. Date Posted: Apr 14 @ 7:50am. To unlock the benefits of the Iron Bomber, it is recommended that rollers be used frequently. This is a great pair with players with good prediction skills, and some knowledge on rocket-jumping and where you will land. As when rocket jumping, Compared to rocket jumping, sticky jumping sends the user much further, but at the cost of much more health (, Due to the high amount of health lost from sticky jumping, it is wise to memorize, Demomen only take 25% reduced damage from their explosive jumps, unlike Soldiers (who take 40% reduced damage). It allows you to place 6 more bombs at a time (14), and it gives you 50% more reserve ammunition (36). Demoman was never going to get the Gunboats. Coffee1341 25 days ago. The lessened speed from the Scotsman's Skullcutter will reduce the Demoman to a Soldier's speed, but the extra damage can be useful when dealing with further threats, and you can always switch to another weapon to run at normal speed again. Aim higher for distant targets or lead towards the direction of a traveling opponent. Ali Baba's Wee Booties will help you survive longer and be able to unexpectedly turn to catch your enemies off guard. Do note that this combination, due to lack of grenades or maneuverability, is poorly-suited to short range combat. Demomen and Engineers are two of the best defensive classes in the game. While the original sets have turned into calling cards, the Alien promotional items have an actual, albeit gimmicky, impact on the game itself. This can be somewhat alleviated if the Demoman wears either the, To get perhaps the best of all worlds, a hybrid knight may be able to use the, Normally, a sentry would be a nightmare for both of them to deal with alone, but a Scout with, A Soldier has much more "on-demand" firepower than a Demoman does and can cover him while he sets up sticky traps. This makes offensive combat weaker. The charge on hit helps you to escape quickly or to charge towards your next target. Thanks for watching! With their ability to airblast, Pyros can be a problem for Demoknights, but Heavies can mow them down with ease and also extinguish you with their. This is "the" full Demoknight loadout, with plenty of choices for going up close and personal to kill your enemies, quite literally. Demoman: demoknight tf2 or sticky spam Heavy: fat scunt Engineer: with the eureka effect, place tele behind enemy lines and harass their spawn . The maximum health penalty can be countered by, If possible, weaken the enemy with the primary weapons first before killing him with the Eyelander or finding an unaware targets such as. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. That said, this strategy does make you very vulnerable to, After planting Stickybombs around the intelligence or a control point, the Demoman is free to leave the area. The Loch-n-Load can easily leave foes dead or with low health if both grenades hit. Mastering Demoman Jumps, also called sticky jumps, can allow players to easily propel themselves behind enemy lines and take out unsuspecting players from either the rear or above. The Half-Zatoichi can be holstered with no penalty if a kill has been scored, but will inflict 50 damage if it has not done so. If done properly, it is possible to rampage through enemy lines if each charge "ends with" a melee kill. A competent Medic has the ability to turn you into resilient, powerful walking nightmare that will destroy anything that stands in your way. The projectile nature of your weapons allows you to act as covering fire; even if you miss, you can cover the area with ticking grenade hazards that will often deter opponents from retreating, making them open for another grenade or your teammates. Spam with the Scottish Resistance is a little bit trickier since you have to aim at your stickybombs, instead of at your enemies. Combined with any melee weapon, but preferably a sword-type, and the Ali Baba's Wee Booties, you can become a powerful close quarters fighter, at the cost of losing all ranged weaponry. It allows you to see your own stickybombs through walls, and all of your stickybombs glow. Tough and well-armed, he's versatile, capable of both offense and defense, and a great starter class to get familiar with the game. To use stickies in an offensive battle, constantly launch stickies and detonate them as soon as possible. Jumper is largely based on how open a map is. None. Demoknights make excellent bodyguards for Medics, as you can very easily kill a Spy, Sniper or Scout with your superior melee prowess. The Sticky Jumper allows you to create Stickbombs that deal no damage, allowing you to jump without losing health. i think is a good idea, everybody say +rep marketdemo. Change the effects of an item based on what it's paired with. And market gardening is being useless to your team. You can use the Ullapool Caber for the very same effect, tough. This technique helps to offset the longer priming time of the Scottish Resistance. The Loch-n-Load is designed more for sharpshooting single targets and taking down pesky Sentry Guns due to its faster projectiles and stronger damage against buildings. This makes any synergy with a friendly Pyro a close-to-mid ranged affair only. The main downside to the Scottish Resistance is the slower bomb arm time. The Iron Bomber's rollers are not as effective as stickybombs. When the trajectory is right, lob in a few bombs and detonate them to clear the room. You can adjust when to detonate your Stickybombs to adjust your trajectory to be either more vertical or horizontal. The Bottle should be used in the same way as most other melee weapons: when enemies are too close or too fast to hit with a Grenade (or if you don't have time to reload the primary weapons). Multiple stickies can be used to take down slower and larger targets such as the Heavy. The Loch-n-Load also comes in handy when dealing with Sentry Guns, which are normally a Demoknight's worst nightmare. (Only if a shield is equipped simultaneously) Why? On a slightly related note, what if the Gunboats had a set bonus with the Rocket/Sticky Jumper weapons that eliminated fall damage? Demo would become the most mobile class in the game, though even more vulnerable. If there is a building or Engineer nest that desperately needs taking down, be a team player and drop the shield for your Stickybomb Launcher. Although getting the first two heads are difficult due to your slow speed and lack of a charge, once you have several, your high speed allows you to fly over obstacles and take enemies by surprise. The Iron Bomber is an easy-to-access method of blast jumping. Note that one needs to have the enemy not knowing that the bombs are there; otherwise, the enemies may retreat and/or destroy the bombs. Used in conjunction with either the, The main problem with this strategy is the loss of all explosive/ranged weapons. Make sure to shoot your stickies far away from the enemy, so they can't see that you are wielding the Sticky Jumper. A Demoman or Demoknight and a Soldier, both using the Pain Train, can rush to points, and capture them very quickly. Their combined firepower and skill in close-quarters melee combat can make a Heavy-Demo team-up very devastating. When combined with the Ullapool Caber's raw power, the Sticky Jumper allows you to reach a tactical target (such as a Medic) and attack them with the Caber before jumping back to heal and resupply the Caber. It may be conjecture, but from what I've seen the sets were removed from the game because they made the game pay-to-win due to the hats being a part of it and people having the set was not immediately obvious. Maintaining a safe distance from the trap, while keeping a clear view of it, would be an ideal scenario. When equipped, the Mantreads reduce the knockback received from damaging weapons (including airblast) by 75%; this does not apply to the player's own weapons and so does not impede rocket jumping. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Demoman doesn't need a market gardener. Would love to add. 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